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Cvs20 purge solenoid

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Good morning yall ,hope everyone is well.
So here goes, I'm either blind,dumb or stupid 🤣....
I be quick and simple, I can't find the location of this piece anywhere on the car, even at work says by canister ,other search Says front of vehicle 🤷🏻‍♂️.. supposed to be same part all the way to 2019..
I'm slowly changing all the emissions related parts as maintenance, since the car just turned 200K miles and would like another 200k out of it.
Anything helps and thanks in advance
 

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Good morning yall ,hope everyone is well.
So here goes, I'm either blind,dumb or stupid 🤣....
I be quick and simple, I can't find the location of this piece anywhere on the car, even at work says by canister ,other search Says front of vehicle 🤷🏻‍♂️.. supposed to be same part all the way to 2019..
I'm slowly changing all the emissions related parts as maintenance, since the car just turned 200K miles and would like another 200k out of it.
Anything helps and thanks in advance
Seem it was as I feared ,not all 2011 Have a vapor/charcoal canister removable solenoid some are built into it.
Low and behold here is the proof ,if you carefully look both canisters are for Fiesta but not interchangeable.
Any one that comes into my same problem now you know why you may not be able to find it. I LOOK everywhere under the hood took intake out,went under the car and even remove the RL wheel and fender to No avail ,then finally decided to turn the piece that most resemble and there is was a dummy plug, literally does,nothing as is sealed on the elbow ,and when you check the hole on the Canister is just that a hole 😅🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Excellent find!

So some valves are Integrated into the canister - so you throw it all away and get a fresh one.

The Valve exists, but due to Revisions that part may be "the same" but the solenoid is sealed into the canister so it becomes a replaceable canister not a solenoid ...

Since the Canister was redesigned - the New-Old-Stock (NOS) Solenoids are no longer in production - so it turns into a Where is ... As is .. scenario that includes the Canister it was used in...

WOOF!

Been finding this in other lines like Taurus and F-150's - the older EVAP solenoids the ones in the front, are now getting ported hole revisions - so the older revision stamped on the valve may not match the Revision and the hole part on the new EVAP valves - so that too can set and check engine light and with older revisions dropped from production - the Dealer / Service Agent has to re-profile the way the New valve affects the vapor pressures under a new porting and it's values.
 
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hey Andy

I did not have C.E.L , as I deleted that code when the pcm was flashed and it was actually a dirty filler neck mouth ,had little bit of dirt , But the other day i was trying to fill up and the nozzle was acting up ,

8 out 10 times is that piece , plus the car just turned 200K and want all the emission components replaced before they actually fail, so i can focus on drivetrain maintenance , started with all tie rods these week

and next be rear shocks and move my way to the front , been holding on performance upgrades for a while now ,and now be even longer till who knows when [wrenchin]
 

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Welcome to the Oxides of March - I call it that when the seasons change from Winter back to Summer thru the thaw and freeze of springtime and all that road salt and crud they use to de-ice in the winter doesn't always wash off and or worse - others grabbing their summer camping gear campers and lawnmower gas cans use the pump before you get to it and leave behind their debris plugging the hose and it gets put into your nozzle you use when you fuel up - *Sigh* more than once our fleet has been sent to the shop to fix issues like that...Fuel pressures and the vent openings - those older revisions have a different size that helps you fuel up your older car and it's standards - but the newer blends and the stuff they mix in with it add to this problem and older car systems weren't set up for some pressure events the gas stations produce now when it comes to flows and shutoffs when it's full.

I've heard the fill-too-full moment and experienced the eruptions from that getting gas everywhere from poor nozzle maintenance and have had to avoid some gas stations because they don't take good care of their stuff - you're left to be at the mercy of the temperature and humidity and water levels in the fuel due to it.

Wish you the best of luck on that - cool to see you found some workarounds. You're not alone in this for many shops are tuning to older parts stores requesting specific parts and they review the "build on" dates and revisions to find the correct piece for the revisions may fit, but the date codes and that revision is what they are looking for. Our stock inventory people scramble to find their parts and as well as needing those older parts replacing the stock they've depleted from other stores grabbing up all the inventory we've got.

The shop I work at is now become the "repository" for that NOS. For many other places and suppliers have gone to the newer revision and dates by turning over their older stock thru depletion or sell off (return to maker). The Economical demands are not there because they have to to keep up with the trickle demands of the older parts is not sustainable as a profitable means - unless you're in a niche market. The newer vehicles get touchy about what they have in them and don't take too kindly to older parts that make a bigger mess when they are not up to specs the newer part support around it needs to be, to keep going. Kinda' leaves a shop open to a lawsuit by the vehicle owner if it doesn't get it, not just fixed, but fixed right.
 

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