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I'm pretty new to this so excuse me if I'm asking my question in the wrong place. My Fiesta's front windscreen washer has stopped working. The rear one works fine and the front wipers work but the pump for the front washer doesn't work. There is just nothing happening when I press the button. A friend has checked the fuse and that's ok. Any help would be gratefully received.
 
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I'm pretty new to this so excuse me if I'm asking my question in the wrong place. My Fiesta's front windscreen washer has stopped working. The rear one works fine and the front wipers work but the pump for the front washer doesn't work. There is just nothing happening when I press the button. A friend has checked the fuse and that's ok. Any help would be gratefully received.
Assuming you arent hearing any whirring when the pump is activated, you will need to check and most likely replace the washer pump. It is located on the washer fluid reservoir and is accessible through the front wheel wheel. It is located in front of the wheel behind the black plastic liner. Remove the electrical connector and check for 12V and ground/earth when the pump is activated. If you have voltage and continuity, the pump is no good. The pumps are not expensive, you might need to replace a rubber donut seal when replacing the motor as well. If you dont have voltage and/or continuity, you have a wiring ussue.
If it appears the pump is not the issue, report back as the next steps are much more involved.
 
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Feel free to wander through the forum threads. We don't charge any admission fee.
It would be nice if people who have a question would introduce themselves in the "new member introduction" area and just post up their questions in the appropriate forum area!
I know, it sounds crazy! But, it helps keep the forums in a reasonably organized condition and much easier to use as a searchable database.
 

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The W-Washer pump itself is a two wire device so if it works one way, then IT SHOULD work in reverse too - because the system it gets power from is DC - so to make it's motor run the other way to make the squirt-squirt work in another direction - that motor assembly needs to have it's tubes hooked up and not plugged and since the wiring is working one way, (to the rear) the switch does it's best to reverse the POLARITY of those wires to reverse the motor to work the valve and force the fluid to go out the other hose on the opposite side of this valve. Your front nozzles.

The system uses two hoses and a valve outlet of two ports. The motor works in both directions of polarity with that polarity reversal the SWITCH does to reverse the leads to the Washer pump to make it work the opposite direction - did you listen to hear the motor run?

IF...
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  • - it's the motor is not running - the problem is at the switch (the valve is mechanical and is in the motor housing but if it's plugged the motor would still run - even to the front hose outlet). No noise ? Then check the switch - it can break its' connections via it's own housing and press switch. The lever has a push switch and a "pull" switch which all this motion does is force the switches own housing cam to move the contacts to reverse the polarity of the motor.
    • No noise means the wiper arm switch CAM is broken and you'll have to take apart the steering wheel to get at the console switch to replace it.
  • If you hear noise- let it run a second or two - or even longer - to find a "wet spot" on the floor where the fluid drips as it will drain out of the break in the hose. Then simply fix the leak - replace the hose.
  • IF you hear noise and can't find the drip or evidence of a break - pop open the hood (bonnet or front cover - whatever it may be called) and locate Fuse block/Air filter housing and Windshield Washer container - in the USA it is on the Drivers side - right next to it are a set of hoses.
    • You may need to disconnect and remove the Headlamp assembly to obtain access to this area to even find the hoses.
      • It would need to be done if the hoses are cracked lines are pinched or the housing is broken.
    • There are two hoses that leave the Windshield washer housing - they go up along the pillar. Front one branches off to the bonnet's hinge for that side of the car then routes thru a set of clips to the front windshield washer nozzles.
      • One set goes thru the top liner and crash bar to get to the rear washer nozzle - the other stays within the front hood.
If you're willing to follow me here, I have removed my rear wiper arm and motor assembly because I got tired of the arm itself - getting in the way. I removed - (removed two screws on the upper brake light pillar sides) and pried off - the rear hatch interior trim panel and removed the motor to prevent me from flipping the switch forward or backwards forcing the arm to scrape scrape (possibly scratch) the dry rear window. Plugged the hole with a simple cap to finish the job.

I then went back to those two hoses - remove the hose butt connector that goes up the inner A-pillar (the front has one too - this may have broken at this joint and where your "plug" or leak is at - is where it's broken) - to put in an angled tee fitting to force both outputs into one hose - the front ones and just use whatever would work in the moment to clear the front windshield and just flicked the Wiper arm for the front to clear the spray once done - a lot faster than remembering which direction to flip or button to push to make it work.

To the Moderator, if you need to relocate this thread to make it more useful - go ahead - no issues here - just hope this helps someone in the future.
 
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The W-Washer pump itself is a two wire device so if it works one way, then IT SHOULD work in reverse too - because the system it gets power from is DC - so to make it's motor run the other way to make the squirt-squirt work in another direction - that motor assembly needs to have it's tubes hooked up and not plugged and since the wiring is working one way, (to the rear) the switch does it's best to reverse the POLARITY of those wires to reverse the motor to work the valve and force the fluid to go out the other hose on the opposite side of this valve. Your front nozzles.

The system uses two hoses and a valve outlet of two ports. The motor works in both directions of polarity with that polarity reversal the SWITCH does to reverse the leads to the Washer pump to make it work the opposite direction - did you listen to hear the motor run?

IF...

  • - it's the motor is not running - the problem is at the switch (the valve is mechanical and is in the motor housing but if it's plugged the motor would still run - even to the front hose outlet). No noise ? Then check the switch - it can break its' connections via it's own housing and press switch. The lever has a push switch and a "pull" switch which all this motion does is force the switches own housing cam to move the contacts to reverse the polarity of the motor.
    • No noise means the wiper arm switch CAM is broken and you'll have to take apart the steering wheel to get at the console switch to replace it.
  • If you hear noise- let it run a second or two - or even longer - to find a "wet spot" on the floor where the fluid drips as it will drain out of the break in the hose. Then simply fix the leak - replace the hose.
  • IF you hear noise and can't find the drip or evidence of a break - pop open the hood (bonnet or front cover - whatever it may be called) and locate Fuse block/Air filter housing and Windshield Washer container - in the USA it is on the Drivers side - right next to it are a set of hoses.
    • You may need to disconnect and remove the Headlamp assembly to obtain access to this area to even find the hoses.
      • It would need to be done if the hoses are cracked lines are pinched or the housing is broken.
    • There are two hoses that leave the Windshield washer housing - they go up along the pillar. Front one branches off to the bonnet's hinge for that side of the car then routes thru a set of clips to the front windshield washer nozzles.
      • One set goes thru the top liner and crash bar to get to the rear washer nozzle - the other stays within the front hood.
If you're willing to follow me here, I have removed my rear wiper arm and motor assembly because I got tired of the arm itself - getting in the way. I removed - (removed two screws on the upper brake light pillar sides) and pried off - the rear hatch interior trim panel and removed the motor to prevent me from flipping the switch forward or backwards forcing the arm to scrape scrape (possibly scratch) the dry rear window. Plugged the hole with a simple cap to finish the job.

I then went back to those two hoses - remove the hose butt connector that goes up the inner A-pillar (the front has one too - this may have broken at this joint and where y
The W-Washer pump itself is a two wire device so if it works one way, then IT SHOULD work in reverse too - because the system it gets power from is DC - so to make it's motor run the other way to make the squirt-squirt work in another direction - that motor assembly needs to have it's tubes hooked up and not plugged and since the wiring is working one way, (to the rear) the switch does it's best to reverse the POLARITY of those wires to reverse the motor to work the valve and force the fluid to go out the other hose on the opposite side of this valve. Your front nozzles.

The system uses two hoses and a valve outlet of two ports. The motor works in both directions of polarity with that polarity reversal the SWITCH does to reverse the leads to the Washer pump to make it work the opposite direction - did you listen to hear the motor run?

IF...

  • - it's the motor is not running - the problem is at the switch (the valve is mechanical and is in the motor housing but if it's plugged the motor would still run - even to the front hose outlet). No noise ? Then check the switch - it can break its' connections via it's own housing and press switch. The lever has a push switch and a "pull" switch which all this motion does is force the switches own housing cam to move the contacts to reverse the polarity of the motor.
    • No noise means the wiper arm switch CAM is broken and you'll have to take apart the steering wheel to get at the console switch to replace it.
  • If you hear noise- let it run a second or two - or even longer - to find a "wet spot" on the floor where the fluid drips as it will drain out of the break in the hose. Then simply fix the leak - replace the hose.
  • IF you hear noise and can't find the drip or evidence of a break - pop open the hood (bonnet or front cover - whatever it may be called) and locate Fuse block/Air filter housing and Windshield Washer container - in the USA it is on the Drivers side - right next to it are a set of hoses.
    • You may need to disconnect and remove the Headlamp assembly to obtain access to this area to even find the hoses.
      • It would need to be done if the hoses are cracked lines are pinched or the housing is broken.
    • There are two hoses that leave the Windshield washer housing - they go up along the pillar. Front one branches off to the bonnet's hinge for that side of the car then routes thru a set of clips to the front windshield washer nozzles.
      • One set goes thru the top liner and crash bar to get to the rear washer nozzle - the other stays within the front hood.
If you're willing to follow me here, I have removed my rear wiper arm and motor assembly because I got tired of the arm itself - getting in the way. I removed - (removed two screws on the upper brake light pillar sides) and pried off - the rear hatch interior trim panel and removed the motor to prevent me from flipping the switch forward or backwards forcing the arm to scrape scrape (possibly scratch) the dry rear window. Plugged the hole with a simple cap to finish the job.

I then went back to those two hoses - remove the hose butt connector that goes up the inner A-pillar (the front has one too - this may have broken at this joint and where your "plug" or leak is at - is where it's broken) - to put in an angled tee fitting to force both outputs into one hose - the front ones and just use whatever would work in the moment to clear the front windshield and just flicked the Wiper arm for the front to clear the spray once done - a lot faster than remembering which direction to flip or button to push to make it work.

To the Moderator, if you need to relocate this thread to make it more useful - go ahead - no issues here - just hope this helps someone in the future.
our "plug" or leak is at - is where it's broken) - to put in an angled tee fitting to force both outputs into one hose - the front ones and just use whatever would work in the moment to clear the front windshield and just flicked the Wiper arm for the front to clear the spray once done - a lot faster than remembering which direction to flip or button to push to make it work.

To the Moderator, if you need to relocate this thread to make it more useful - go ahead - no issues here - just hope this helps someone in the future.
 
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Thread Starter #6
Many thanks for your very detailed reply. I'm afraid it sounds far too complicated for me to sort out myself. Especially as there is no noise when I press the washer button. The rear washer works ,no problem there so it looks like the steering wheel will have to come off 😱😱
 


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